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PostSubject: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue Apr 21, 2020 10:58 am

Hi all , bought a grant 2 and it has been expanded by knights to export mode , normal power am/fm is 4 w and SSB is 12 w but what is the power output in export mode? I’ve been told it’s much higher but I have no power meter so can’t test.
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue Apr 21, 2020 12:53 pm

Grant 2 Premium is supposed to be higher than Grant 2. I'd not be concerned unless you're intending to run it with a linear amplifier as even if it's double it's barely an extra S point on the meter for the other end.
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue Apr 21, 2020 1:10 pm

Not intending to run an amp but that really doesn’t answer my question.
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue Apr 21, 2020 1:31 pm

Knights are the probably the best people to answer your question if they did the modification.
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue Apr 21, 2020 1:33 pm

I did ask but no reply over social media , shop is closed at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue Apr 21, 2020 2:00 pm

As far as I'm aware with the Mk1 & 2 there is no increase to output power at all. With the premium it goes up.

As Connor has said the increase in power would make very little difference anyway. You should buy a reasonable SWR/Power meter then you can measure it yourself.

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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue Apr 21, 2020 7:25 pm

Hi i have the grant 11 expanded from a to j (i think it is ) when it was standerd 4 am 4 fm 12 ssb .Its now 4 am 4 fm 11 ssb my ssb went down a bit but i run a kl203 p and gives me aprox 80 am 80 fm 120 ssb works great. I understand they do not make them anymore
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue Apr 21, 2020 11:04 pm

They’re still listed on the President main site so it’s availability I’m sure.
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeWed Apr 22, 2020 7:25 am

BrianS wrote:
They’re still listed on the President main site so it’s availability I’m sure.

Unfortunately they are discontinued Brian. They have been replaced by the President Mckinley. (Nearest equivalent)

It's a shame really because I really like my Grant 2.

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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeThu Apr 23, 2020 9:00 pm

I have the grant 2 premium by knights to wich is expanded it's pushing out 20w AM FM and UKFM and 12w ssb I hope that helps
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeThu Apr 23, 2020 9:44 pm

I always thought the Grant two remained 4w 4w 12 watt power but the expansion broadened the frqs from 25.615 to 30.105 mhz AM / FM SSB and freqs ending in 0 as well as 5
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2020 7:13 am

They must me on standard grants to do 4w and then the export expanded is 20w 12w
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2020 9:24 am

Found this online review of the Grant 2 and what happens when its expanded.

http://www.cbradiomagazine.com/Radio%20Reviews/President%20Grant%20II/President%20Grant%20II.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyH7dvza1as
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2020 9:48 am

Bear in mind both those resources where posted while the G2 was still in Mk1 form. The Mk2 should be the same but the premium will be different.

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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2020 9:51 am

GaryWilson wrote:
Bear in mind both those resources where posted while the G2 was still in Mk1 form. The Mk2 should be the same but the premium will be different.

73's Gary.

I'll do more digging Gary, I would be pleased to find a way to boost the power of my Mk2 but at the mo it does 4, 4 and about 11 on SSB.
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2020 3:43 pm

In export mode the Grant 2 PREMIUM will do about 20w output so be careful not to run it into an amplifier as you will probably blow the amp.

You can drop the output by way of an internal adjustment.

The original Grant 2 (Non-Premium) only sees a slight increase in output power when put into export.
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2020 4:55 pm

BillMasen wrote:

I'll do more digging Gary, I would be pleased to find a way to boost the power of my Mk2 but at the mo it does 4, 4 and about 11 on SSB.

Don't bother. Whilst increasing the power on SSB by even 12 watts may sound a lot it isn't. Even if you double the power doubling the power is a 3dB gain and as a S point is 3dB on a CB meter that only gives you a single S point at the other end. If you want a worthwhile gain you need to be looking at 10dB so you want an amp.

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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue May 12, 2020 9:38 am

I have just purchased a very fresh but used President Grant 2 premium and would like to (perhaps) expand it I’ve trawled the internet for info, So I have learned how to expand the radio, and that it will retain the UK 40, great! My question is, if I join the white bridge cable with a simple SPST switch and connect 3 wires to the jumper pins with a SPDT switch, I should, in theory, be able to return the radio to its factory EU norms ? Agree ?
As previously mentioned, the expansion of the radio increases the power thus not letting me (in theory) run a linear, if I were to use the 2 switches, I can return it to legal power and in theory run a linear ?

My other thought was that if the radio was expanded, if there was a way to turn the power back to legal spec while it was still in export configuration, it would enable one to just run a linear all the time without the faff of wiring in switches, but I cannot find any info on this.

Any help/advice much appreciated.

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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue May 12, 2020 9:53 am

You can simply turn the output power down. The relevent pots are marked on this image....(EXPORT MODE)

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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue May 12, 2020 12:56 pm

Brilliant thanks, going to temporarily mod it on a switch for the time being (drill no holes etc) and see how i get on with standard export power. Then if i feel i need to run a linear in export, ill turn down the pots in export mode.
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue May 12, 2020 8:58 pm

HI i had a grant 11 premium and expanded by knights  up until 2 months ago it was giving 22 wats on  uk FM  and just under 40 watts on ssb am was around 17 watts beware the built in swr meter not very accurate 2/3 points on the high side so you need the swr as low as possible using external meter hopr this is of some help  cheers and beers Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeWed May 13, 2020 3:34 pm

Brilliant, thanks. I will be expanding it myself so will have to measure. Anyone any idea what type of current draw these have in standard form and expanded ?
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PostSubject: Re: President Grant 2 premium.    President Grant 2 premium.  Icon_minitimeTue May 26, 2020 1:02 pm

Exported my radio myself and tuned down the power output to about 7w SSB to let me run it into my linear. works well. Not much room for fine adjustment on the pot. Seemed to be 20w, 12w or 7 w no in between. But works well and have made some good contacts.

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