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Neil O
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Equipment Used : CRT SS6900n; Thunderpole T-800; Midland Alan 42DS;Venom 1/2 wave silver rod antenna.
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PostSubject: 5G Conspiracy   5G Conspiracy Icon_minitimeWed Apr 08, 2020 9:47 pm

Evening all

I tuned in on my Midland Alan 42 DS at around 1700 today to find channel 19 playing an American Broadcast about 5G being the cause of everything bad in the world.  I live in North London.  Even on my handheld the audio was clear but signal was only around 4 and fading in and out.  Did anyone else experience this?

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PostSubject: Re: 5G Conspiracy   5G Conspiracy Icon_minitimeWed Apr 08, 2020 10:28 pm

There are plenty of nutters out there, sadly
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PostSubject: Re: 5G Conspiracy   5G Conspiracy Icon_minitimeThu Apr 09, 2020 6:01 am

I didn't hear it myself as I dont live far from your area but there is few idiots in East London and South London that have been around on UKFM for a very long time who all run very high power and have always just ruined the 19 , that's there type of thing to do ,its a good job I hardly ever use the Muppet channels so that's why I never heard it ,but that might answer your question where it was coming from , funny thing is I heard about that reason what's happening is to do with 5G quite a while back , I heard it was something to do with that we or the world didn't want China having anything to do with the running of the 5G network for some reason and this was there revenge and the other one was that the 5G testing that's been going on with out us knowing has been to powerful and been sending some sort of radioactive in air and people have really been getting a sort of radioactive illness LOL ,very true there some nutters out and I'm 100% definitely not one them but the first rumer about China's revenge makes you think a little  bit
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PostSubject: Re: 5G Conspiracy   5G Conspiracy Icon_minitimeThu Apr 09, 2020 3:25 pm

the big issue is that mast installers do not have to publish power levels and output emmissions for any of these masts, its that fact that drivers the conspiericy people, thats the same for 2g, 3g, 4g
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PostSubject: Re: 5G Conspiracy   5G Conspiracy Icon_minitimeThu Apr 09, 2020 6:00 pm

OK forget about the rumer about 5g giving us radioactive illness stuff , but I do remember when 4g was first being tested our TV's use to go funny ie loose reception on certain channels and another thing was cb and Amateur radio seem to have tons of interference infact  I put some vids up on YouTube showing it back then ,also this may have been a coincidence but I have two radio phone masts opposite my home  ,between my house and them  there is a duel carriage way road so you guess how far they away but we use to see the engineers back then working on them and it seems strange but my kids who was younger then started saying they kept getting headaches and feeling sick , me and mrs thought yeah just dont want to go to school or dont want to do there homework lol but then one of my neighbor's said he was feeling a bit of the same too then one day we got a knock at the door now remember what I said about the TV interference earlier this guy from some communication company sad here is a filter for the TV as the new 4G has been found to cause problems (I still still have the filter) so I fitted it this wasnt a wind up cos everyone got one and I think it was reported on TV too ,then after a few months got told dont need it anymore  because it's all going to go digital so I do think all this 2g3g4gand now 5g can cause problems, I know we are at the lowest time for the sunspots for radio but be honest anyone else notice that radio is basically crap for any contacts near or far and more interference is back again .

Sorry  for waffling on it just took alot of explanation
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PostSubject: Re: 5G Conspiracy   5G Conspiracy Icon_minitimeFri Apr 10, 2020 6:16 pm

28DR405 wrote:
the big issue is that mast installers do not have to publish power levels and output emmissions for any of these masts, its that fact that drivers the conspiericy people, thats the same for 2g, 3g, 4g

There are legal limits they have to adhere to. These are available on OFCOMs website for those who can be arsed to look. You'll be quite surprised at how low the EIRP of a sector panel is. Suffice to say there's a lot of "export radios" with higher power outputs.

Nubster, please go learn about RF Power Density and use a few of the online calculators. You'll then understand why you can stand not much more than a few feet away from a mast up in the air directly in front of the transmitter and be within safe limits.

As an example I have a Hustler 5BTV in my garden. I can transmit the full 400W legal limit out of it on 80m band and stood three feet away from it the RF power density the exposure I'd have is 10% below the safe limit of maximum permissible exposure for an uncontrolled environment (where you have no control over who walks around it).

Just out of interest though Nubster, if the mast worried you didn't talking on your mobile phone with it clamped to the side of your skull? Do you even think about that or do you just get on with using it? If so then why does the mast bother you but the phone with the transmitter millimeters from your brain not worry you?
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PostSubject: Re: 5G Conspiracy   5G Conspiracy Icon_minitimeFri Apr 10, 2020 8:01 pm

First of I dont have my mobile phone constantly strapped to side of my head , and I see your at your normal sarcastic remarks to people that dont understand a subject on something you live and breath about.
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PostSubject: Re: 5G Conspiracy   5G Conspiracy Icon_minitimeSat Apr 11, 2020 10:33 am

Thanks guys, but it appears I was the only one lucky enough to hear the broadcast.  Ironic that whoever decided to broadcast it used radio as the way to do it.

Interesting thoughts from all of you.  Thanks! The 5G argument will no doubt go on for a long time, mostly because it takes a bit of effort to become fully informed on complex topics.  Some people want it to be a problem!  Others see tech as the way forward in all things.  I work with radiation at the other end of the spectrum (ionising radiation and light from lasers from UV through visible to IR, from a Safety perspective).  There are hazards here as at radio frequencies and there a benefits in the use of light and sound in medical treatments.  We just need a balanced approach.
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